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James Tanner
Washington Capitals
Location: North Cederbrooke , ON
Joined: 01.19.2017

May 26 @ 10:17 AM ET
James Tanner: Should the Capitals Trade Ovechkin? Duh
PensFanRVA
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Richmond, VA
Joined: 04.02.2013

May 26 @ 10:22 AM ET
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

May 26 @ 10:24 AM ET
No.

What would OV net in return for the Caps? Methinks they wouldn't reap the appropriate return for his services.

Having said that, his level of play offensively has certainly diminished. He also needs to dial back the hitting (or should I say "charging") and learn how to play proper 2-way hockey. He may score less goals but his commitment at both ends of the ice while wearing the "C" would benefit the team in so many ways.
Polecat
Nashville Predators
Joined: 11.01.2006

May 26 @ 10:26 AM ET
Ovi to the Preds for a 3rd rounder.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

May 26 @ 10:29 AM ET
Yes to the Yotes, Leafs, Oilers, or Vegas....or whatever other team you blog for now.

Tannerbuzz is taking over
James Tanner
Washington Capitals
Location: North Cederbrooke , ON
Joined: 01.19.2017

May 26 @ 10:30 AM ET
No.

What would OV net in return for the Caps? Methinks they wouldn't reap the appropriate return for his services.

Having said that, his level of play offensively has certainly diminished. He also needs to dial back the hitting (or should I say "charging") and learn how to play proper 2-way hockey. He may score less goals but his commitment at both ends of the ice while wearing the "C" would benefit the team in so many ways.

- mjones242



If you read the blog, you'll see that his play hasn't actually diminished at all. Also, Ovechkin is a winger and doesn't need to play better defense he's a +50% CF player.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

May 26 @ 10:32 AM ET
Washington would never come close to getting what they want or deserve for him on the open market so....nothing to see here, move along
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 26 @ 10:35 AM ET
The return would probably be better on Backstrom than Ovechkin. If they want to get younger and reap a bunch of assets while keeping the face of your franchise, that's how you do it. I don't think they will though
James Tanner
Washington Capitals
Location: North Cederbrooke , ON
Joined: 01.19.2017

May 26 @ 10:37 AM ET
The return would probably be better on Backstrom than Ovechkin. If they want to get younger and reap a bunch of assets while keeping the face of your franchise, that's how you do it. I don't think they will though
- jcragcrumple



Not a terrible idea, but why break up the dynamic duel.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 26 @ 10:40 AM ET
Not a terrible idea, but why break up the dynamic duel.
- james_tanner1



If you think the core has hit a wall, the dynamic is stale, they're going to lose players to FA this year. It would let you retool for one last OV run in 2-3 years after restocking with youth.

Backstrom is still relatively young though, so idk, there's probably not a great reason to do it
ChonDerry
Location: Bedlamton, AB
Joined: 04.06.2016

May 26 @ 10:51 AM ET
Trumpbuzz
Razzdazzle1
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.17.2015

May 26 @ 10:54 AM ET

Trade him to Nashville for Forsberg

bobinson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Brampton, ON
Joined: 09.09.2006

May 26 @ 11:08 AM ET
I would've wrote the article with just two letters followed by a period...

No.

Look, aside from his shooting % being lower than normal, and the very real usage and puck touches issues presented, he's not the issue.

But further than that, the return wouldn't be anywhere near the value they get for keeping him.

Example for me is the Kessel trade (Not too many high scoring wingers get traded, but this is as good of an example as I can find for a player with as much time left on his contract)

Penguins Acquire:
Kessel
Tyler Biggs
Tim Erixon
2016 2nd round pick

Leafs acquire:
Nick Spaling
Scott Harrington
Kasperi Kapanen
2016 1st round pick
2016 3rd round pick

The leafs moved Spaling for a pick (IIRC), and Harrington for Kerby Rychel. The first round pick was traded in the deal to land Freddie Andersen. The Leafs also retained 1.2 Million of the Kessel contract.

There-in lies the rub; Any team that would want to acquire Ovechkin (As long as they're not one of the 10 he lists on his modified NTC according to Cap Friendly), would have to be able to take on his salary. The Caps would likely have to retain salary on the deal.

And even still; what is the most they can hope for in return? You're not exactly selling high at the moment. He's had a sub-par season, followed by a decent, but unspectacular playoffs. Why would a team acquiring him be willing to take him at full price and give up prime assets?

The Caps wouldn't be dealing from a position of power (similar to the Leafs wanting to move Kessel), and while the Caps will have more suitors than the Leafs did for Kessel (who was only ever really connected to the Pens), their return probably wouldn't justify the cost of moving him.

Naw. I agree with the OP on this one. Dance with the one who brought ya. Keep the core in tact and hope for better luck next season. Trading Ovechkin from a position of weakness will haunt the franchise for years.
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

May 26 @ 11:21 AM ET
I'll shut down your naive blog with one sentence...

IF #99 CAN GET TRADED, ANYONE CAN.



rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

May 26 @ 11:33 AM ET
more Trump nonsense from james. luv it.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

May 26 @ 11:45 AM ET
I'll shut down your naive blog with one sentence...

IF #99 CAN GET TRADED, ANYONE CAN.

- Leniwm1


Different era ....there's this thing called a salary cap ...not saying ovie is not tradable but you can't use the Gretzky example anymore
James Tanner
Washington Capitals
Location: North Cederbrooke , ON
Joined: 01.19.2017

May 26 @ 11:57 AM ET
I'll shut down your naive blog with one sentence...

IF #99 CAN GET TRADED, ANYONE CAN.

- Leniwm1



Well I didn't say he couldn't get traded, I just said they shouldn't do it.
RedDog18
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 07.05.2013

May 26 @ 11:58 AM ET
Different era ....there's this thing called a salary cap ...not saying ovie is not tradable but you can't use the Gretzky example anymore
- Redmile247


I think the Nash trade would be more of a reasonable comparison to the Capitals trading Ovi. Nash was 28 at the time so age would play a factor in return for AO.

If Washington could get 3 players that fit into their Top 9 F/Top 4 D and 1-2 picks would it be enough to deal Ovechkin?

Now would be the perfect time. The expansion draft is going to force some teams into a spot where they need to deal players.
Zac_O
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.17.2015

May 26 @ 12:00 PM ET
No. Ovi should retire from the NHL this off season and go play in the KHL so he can try to win gold for mother Russia at the Olympics. Then un-retire next season.
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

May 26 @ 12:02 PM ET
Is Ovi the Caps best player? I think that would be Backstrom.
Blue Clam
St Louis Blues
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 07.16.2009

May 26 @ 12:04 PM ET
Do you accept that some people have better shooting percentages because they take better shots?

Ovi loves to blast bad angle shots with no traffic.
Blue Clam
St Louis Blues
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 07.16.2009

May 26 @ 12:11 PM ET
Is Ovi the Caps best player? I think that would be Backstrom.
- Thorny87

Not sure if I would say he's better, they are kind of hard to compare. I would take Backstrom at 6.7M over Ovi at 9.5M though.
Razzdazzle1
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.17.2015

May 26 @ 12:11 PM ET
Do you accept that some people have better shooting percentages because they take better shots?

Ovi loves to blast bad angle shots with no traffic.

- Blue Clam



Some guys close their eyes and hope for the best.

Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

May 26 @ 12:13 PM ET
"trade him for a bag of chips and yesterdays gitch, guy sucks feet"
-Slava Malamud
James Tanner
Washington Capitals
Location: North Cederbrooke , ON
Joined: 01.19.2017

May 26 @ 12:19 PM ET
Do you accept that some people have better shooting percentages because they take better shots?

Ovi loves to blast bad angle shots with no traffic.

- Blue Clam



If you are a high volume shooter, you'll always have a lower % than most people, however, Ovechkin's 5v5 career shooting percetage is 10% he was 2 percentage points (or 20% ) lower this year.

Volume shooters are the most important players on hockey teams. Nothing a player can do can make up for ten shot attempts or more per game. year after year he destroys the competition in shot totals - which is he real skill. Whether or not he scores is beyond his control - no one in the NHL, other than Austom Matthews, is better at getting himself open for a shot.

I do not think Ovechkin has had his last 50 goal season. Let's not forget that had his shot not hit the shaft of the goalie stick, Ovechkin comes up huge in game seven and is likely still playing. Thus turning the entire course of the idea that he's somehow finished.

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